Two rail workers killed this morning at Singleton
#11
dateline= Wrote:[cite] EYL:[/cite]The usual, expected and ill-informed media beat-up has begun. Ch 9's report was insinuating that the coalie could have stopped! Then they interview this little old lady who (supposedly) lives trackside, and reckons the trains go so fast she can't count the wagons........

Puh-leeeeeze........

I was coming on here to go off about this stupid bit of media reporting but have been beaten to it.
Why does the news alays consult old Mavis or Harold across the road for an expert opinon on stuff they no bollocks about?
If you ask last nights old hag to describe what a coal hopper looks like without looking at one I bet she will say "Well ahhhmmmm, well sonny I think they have 4 wheels and a sort of triangular timber box to hold the coal".
This woman as probably been so long she really dosent take that much notice and you know what elderly woman are like, they even crack the shits with the speed babies crawl across floors.

Of course there was the HORRIFYING revelation that the coal train took a kilometre to stop. WELL I NEVER!!!!!! That driver must have been out of control.

Coconutwits!

Spadge
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#12
dateline= Wrote:[cite] signaller1:[/cite]Thats why there is a thing called a CSB (Controlled Signal Block), why wasn't the protecting signals placed back at stop with blocks applied thus preventing rail traffic from entering the worksite, hmm Ive heard that ARTC are a bit dodgey.

Cheers

Nate

Just got a call from our WoS reporter live on D51.
Not sure where he heard it, but the talk is the work had ceased and line reopened. These workers remembered they left something behind and set off after it.
Sadly the outcome was this.

Brad
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#13
dateline= Wrote:[cite] signaller1:[/cite]I can't stand the media, they get the Railway people offiside with the public straight away. its like the media drives a wedge between \"Us and them\" (not a bad Pink Floyd song actually) anyway back to my rant, lol. If they two guys had a CSB how did they become to be hit by a train or was ARTC being laxed in their safeworking again where it actually put peoples lives at risk.

Ive got some good stories about ARTC down south and how clueless they are

Cheers

nate

Nate,
See above.
Brad
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#14
Depends on what they left behind and whether they needed a CSB in order to get it out of the Danger Zone... Could have simply been their tucker box lying on the point motor in which case they could hare run with NAR working with one acting as the lookout... Odds are the Signaller didn't even know they were back trackside until the crew of the Coalie reported the accident. And if it went down the way it has been reported, the PO is going to have a hard time explaining his decision to let them back trackside with no protection...

One of our crew's was working 1591 and got trapped in BMD yard until 2000 last night with the line reopening shortly after... He reported not one, but two incident's of unprotected worksites on the trip from Enfield-Broadmeadow yesterday...And on a Ballast train on Sunday morning, we ran over somebody's protection after being told it was clear... The PO/TO we had on board was not a happy chappy..."Removing protection includes removing the Effin' detonators not just the red flag, you fools"...

On a related topic, the article mentions working on the points... Have they removed that lever frame and replaced it with motorised points at the southern end of the yard?
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#15
A certain labour hire company who rents out " rail safety workers", has been grabbing blokes straight out of prison, bang through a 2 week course, pass them regardless of they really know what they are doing, and wait for the fallout.
Turning up pissed to work sites, trashing hotel rooms, locked up a various country cells, and a rather unpleasent bashing at Lithgow are all the fruits of this fine mob.
Apparently there is subsidies paid the govt for getting crims back to work, and so this is why they do so.
And like any lad whose been in for a bit, piss and hornbags are straight on the agenda!
Amid all the crap, it is a welcome pustule of truth bursting forth.<br /><br />Well, as they say, &quot;normal&quot; is just a setting on a dryer. So if you stick enough people in a laundry room, someone is bound to want to violate that dryer.
#16
What I cant understand is the fact that it is a wide open area where I think is a looooong straight from Whittingham Junction and then a wide left hand curve a few hundred metres before the station. So how the hell did the train crew not see anyone on the track ?
#17
One news report said heavy fog at the time.. but then again, that was a news report - so take that with a grain or 6 of salt.
Out of my mind. Back in 5 minutes.
#18
Rowie,

Reports from the Hunter and this is shown in the photo that appeared in the Terrorgraph is they stepped out of the path of a loaded coalie and straight into the path of the empty, how they didn't see the empty approaching is beyond me, however, I would imagine all lights except marker lights would have been turned off on approach of the 2 trains.

Tim
#19
Little birdie has a similar story, stepped out from behind an Up Coalie into the path of the Down Empty... Time will tell which is correct. Unfortunately it is not a lesson they shall learn from, although I have no doubt this incident will have wide-reaching ramifications for those of us who do work trackside.

And I hope to god the Down Crew had the ditch lights on IAW with the Network Rules, otherwise they may very well find themselves cannon fodder in the Coroner's Court explaining why they werent on...
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#20
KR,

That rule about the ditch lights is ridiculous, sure it makes the train more visible to trackside personnel, but when you have oncoming rail traffic it is a problem, each ditch light has a 100w globe, so is quite blinding.

Tim


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